Comments: What the hell does [x] mean?

Originally Posted by magneticskull

AHA!
So the $5NL tables at Stars are the .01/.02 tables...
I can breath again. Thanks.

Nah, .01/.02 tables are 2$NL. You buy in to the table with $2 do you not?

The default amount is $2, the table max is $5, I generally buy in for 1.50 when I am just playing for "practice"

Originally Posted by magneticskull

The default amount is $2, the table max is $5,

weird.

Originally Posted by Renton

ROFLMAOLOLOMFG!

Don't be a dick. Are you just posting to increase your post count now?

float?

this software is piece of crap

Originally Posted by swiggidy

float?

If we're both thinking of the same float then thats what you call it when players call suspected continuation bets on the flop in the hopes that the bettor will give up his unimproved AK and check to them on the turn. Then they can bet and hopefully take the pot away from the preflop aggressor. They are floating over the other guys flop bet looking for an oppertunity to take the pot.

Sound about right?

Originally Posted by Dunk

I don't think this one is already in the list

C-bet, cbet, continuation bet

A bet made from early position, not to push players out of the pot in itself, but to continue to establish a strong position or image. Big enough to get information if someone else re-raises you, but not so big as to really hurt your stack if you get smacked.

Note: not the same thing as a value bet, where you're trying to extract money on a dominant made hand.

Usage might be something like:
"The turn came a rag, so I thought my set was still good, so I made a c-bet to see what would happen."

bump

I think you are referring to a probe bet.

A c-bet is just referred to a flop bet made by the preflop raiser (or more specifically, the last person to make a raise preflop), especially when they missed the flop.

ie. I raised in MP with AK, BN and BB call. Flop comes rags and there's one check to me, so I c-bet representing a high pocket pair.

Originally Posted by swiggidy

float?

Calling a bet in order to take a pot down later. Think of it kind of as like a bluff slowplay or a bluff call.

nit?

Originally Posted by dev

nit?

twit, doofus, dumbass...

Originally Posted by dev

nit?

Always thought it was a super tight multi-tableing set hunter type of player.

a nit is gambler who is afraid to gamble

DUCY, DICY, AND UCY??

All 3 of these were within the same post.
I was quite lost reading this post.

do you see why? do I see why? you see why?

DUCY

this software is piece of crap

huh?

Originally Posted by ttanaka

this software is piece of crap

huh?

Posted: Tue, 28 Mar 2006, 2:57am Post subject: software

I believe the site was a tad slow in that time frame.

Char (or one of the other mods)

Any chance you could split the suggestions away from the main stickied post and just include a link in the sticky to the suggestions?

I don't mind updating, it's just a bit hard to keep up at times!

You need a definition for fold equity, here is mine:

The value you get from the times your opponent(s) folds
Fold Equity = (% of the time your opponent folds) * (the amount of money you win when he folds ie pot size)

Done!

cheers Arkana.

Originally Posted by dev

nit?

see:ilikeaces86

metagame?

Originally Posted by andr3w321

metagame?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagame

open limp?

being the first person in the pot preflop, but not raising.

ty renton

What's all this 19 Hands stuff?

What are AOK's 19 hands?

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-26429.htm

What do we mean when we say that we "bomb the next street"? I understand that we are putting some chips in the middle, but does the term include amount guidelines?

FWIW?

Originally Posted by andy609

FWIW?

for what it's worth (fwiw)

Originally Posted by HalvSame

What do we mean when we say that we "bomb the next street"? I understand that we are putting some chips in the middle, but does the term include amount guidelines?

I'm bumping this one, just a little.

What's a 'shania' hand?

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Originally Posted by HalvSame

What do we mean when we say that we "bomb the next street"? I understand that we are putting some chips in the middle, but does the term include amount guidelines?

I'm bumping this one, just a little.

Betting it hard. From pot to push, I'd say.

Originally Posted by drtofu66

What's a 'shania' hand?

*chuckle*

Prepare to have your brain expanded:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ghlight=shania

When people talk about "top pair top kicker" is the kicker involved always an ace? Or is the kicker just "top" relative to the actual or imagined kickers of the other players?

If the top pair is a pair of aces, then the top kicker is a king. If the top pair is lower than a pair of aces, then the top kicker is an ace

(at the begining of a hand history) Player x is 48/39.

I presume this is something to with hands played?

VP$IP/PFR

Voluntarily put $ in pot %/Pre-flop raise % (from PokerTracker)

The Shocker= Ace + Duece starting hand

the best example of a nit is a guy who is new to the table but wont post the BB from the CO but instead elects to wait for his BB.

It extends to people who do nitting things of this nature around the poker table.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

the best example of a nit is a guy who is new to the table but wont post the BB from the CO but instead elects to wait for his BB.

um no

this is a reasonable person. And if you post you blind oop you have a leak in your game. I make a ton of money from "non-nits" who post their bb oop by raising any two whenever they do.

wtf? posting in the CO is not a leak.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

wtf? posting in the CO is not a leak.

No, posting in the CO is the absolute definition of a leak.

It is a small leak, but its a leak nonetheless.

I have done this alot. Is it really a leak because I figured that CO is still good position. Now I won't post from MP or UTG but CO never seemed bad. Why renton, I need to know so that I have reason not to.

posting in the CO is a leak for the same reason that playing 72o in the CO is a leak.

get it?

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

I have done this alot. Is it really a leak because I figured that CO is still good position. Now I won't post from MP or UTG but CO never seemed bad. Why renton, I need to know so that I have reason not to.

I post in LP all the time. Technically, you're paying an extra blind for your orbit (half orbit, 2/3, whatever), but I find that I steal often enough after posting from here that the position advantage makes up for it.

why give up even a single cent of ev when its so much easier to just wait?

you guys are going to change your minds when you play 2/4 5/10 or 10/20 and that blind money actually means something.

Maybe that's the biggest problem renton. That"it's only $.25 has been my downfall before. I have stopped that from the SB, BB and on EP preflop so why not here too. Maybe it'll make opening the other 5 tables and gametime+ a little easier if I don't get involved in so many hands right away.

Great info here, thanks guys.

Leak or not, when I'm playing I play at 10 person tables. I'm not waiting 6-8 mins to post the BB, I'm damned well posting from the cutoff.

I'm losing money by not being involved $/hr wise.

Oh, and a shameless plug for my thread that's still going strong.

Originally Posted by Renton

posting in the CO is a leak for the same reason that playing 72o in the CO is a leak.

get it?

At full-ring this just doesn't add up.
Blinds are a pay-to-play charge and you're charged 1.5xbb per round. So at a full 10-ring you're paying 0.15xbb per hand.

Posting at CO means paying 1xbb for 7 hands so 0.14xbb per hand. A net-gain.
Empty chairs mean it's worth waiting for the BB, though.

you have to pay for the next blinds as well sir.

Originally Posted by midas06

you have to pay for the next blinds as well sir.

Only if you want to play another orbit.
I mean, the last hand I usually play in any session is UTG.

What's an orphan pot?

Originally Posted by Pants_101

What's an orphan pot?

A pot that whoever bets at it first will take down.

Example: A three way limped pot with a flop of 288 rainbow.

If you make 10 BB/100 on average from the CO-UTG then playing 7 extra hands should net you 0.7BBs.

Originally Posted by biondino

If you make 10 BB/100 on average from the CO-UTG then playing 7 extra hands should net you 0.7BBs.

Actually they're notionally "worth" 0.7BBs, but I know what you mean.

Saying they "should" net you 0.77BBs is like saying AA "should" always win.

Well no it isn't like saying that. The only way you can adequately value them is compared to your long-term win rate. One session you might make $20 on these 7 hands, the next you might lose $30, but you will tend to 0.7BB because that's your lonhg term win rate.

However, you can also argue that because it's your first orbit, you'll be rusty, or cautious, and you may have no reads, which maybe needs to be borne in mind.

Ok, I want to go back to value betting, because there seem to be different exlplanations out there.

First Explanantion I heard: You have a strong hand (nuts or near nuts) and want players with weaker holdings (like TPTK) to call. You do this because you think they could fold to a push and you would loose value doing so as a consequence.

Second explanation: You hold a weak hand (lets say you are holding QQ and the flop comes K93Rainbow) and its checked to you. You check aswell and the turn comes a J. Now you bet for value because you can be pretty sure your hand is good (any player with a J or a 9 would probably call a smallish bet). I don't know if its a good example, basically: your hand is mediocre but you still believe its better than your opponents.

Quote from pokrtips.org about value betting:

"Value betting is what seperates a great player from just a good player. Obviously, any person knows to bet when he or she holds the nuts. However, getting maximum value out of marginal hands is much trickier."

So, please feel free to post comments so we can get that straight!

Value betting, simply, is when you have a hand that beats the range of hand that you think your opponent will call with, and you bet it, hoping he'll call. The absolute strength of your hand isn't important, its only important that it is better than most of your opponent's range.

is lc = line check or low content?

i keep putting hand histories with lc, and wonder if ppl think its a bad beat or something instead of a line check.

low content

OK... I tried to find the meaning to this one, but the search brings up three pages of results.

?

You win a big pot...

You win 1st place in an MTT, the money's yours...

Originally Posted by Renton

why give up even a single cent of ev when its so much easier to just wait?

you guys are going to change your minds when you play 2/4 5/10 or 10/20 and that blind money actually means something.

Dont mean to respond to a week old post, but posting in the CO is cheaper than posting the blinds. To post in the co you pay 1BB for 7 hands, to post in the blinds you pay 1.5BB for 10 hands, so the cost per hand while posting in the co is .147BB and in the blinds it is .150BBs. Posting in the CO is not a leak and it is actually +EV in a FR game [which is what you play, right?].

In a 6/5max game it would be a leak and there is no reason not to wait when itll only take a minute or two before you can post in the blinds.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Ummmm..... reads FTW?

FTW = What???? I looked on the What the hell does XX mean and the 2 threads - help

for the win

FTW?


-Kes

Originally Posted by Warpe

For The Win

Bump

We need to add Radashacked and a definition.

kthx.

New member question. I'm certain this isn't the most ideal place to ask, but is there a way to turn off poster avatars/sigs. I personally dont mind, but some are a bit too racy for office viewing. Thanks in advance.

Wow, asked like a true n00b. Thanks for the below post.

Originally Posted by rusticity

New member question. I'm certain this isn't the most ideal place to ask, but is there a way to turn off poster avatars/sigs. I personally dont mind, but some are a bit too racy for office viewing. Thanks in advance.

Yes. Take a look at the sticky topics.

What's "Laughing out Loud" mean?

No seriously...what's EV?

Originally Posted by uscheese

What's "Laughing out Loud" mean?

No seriously...what's EV?

EV is the expected value of an action. Its the money (or chip) average that you expect to get out of a bet.

e.g. A game of poker with faceup cards.

You hold 4 5
I hold A K

The board is 6 K J Q

If the turn is any of the remaining 9 hearts you will win. Otherwise you will lose.

The pot is $50 and I put you allin for $10 more.

You have a 9/44 chance of winning the hand. (9 hearts with 44 remaining unseens cards in the deck).

So if you call you stand to win $60 ($50 pot + my $10 bet) 9/44 of the time for an win of

9/44 * $60 = +$12.27

Of coure 35/44 of the time your flush wont come and youll lose the $10 call for an average loss of

35/44 * -$10 = -$7.95

So the total expectated value of a call is +$4.32 (12.27-7.95) so you should call since you will make an average of $4.32 every time you do.

In poker you generally want to maximize your EV with every decision.

please add AYCEB to the list